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LONGINES WEEMS WWII

Categories: US MILITARY WATCHES

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SAYS MILITARY

ALL THREE INCLUDED
SOME PICS BELOW SHOW HOW WE RELEASE SPRING BAR
LIKE MOST OLD MILITARY WATCHES, WHETHER SOLD DIRECT
LIKE THE DAVID AMD MARTTY COLLECTIONS THAT INCLUDE
LONGINES JAEGER LECOULTRE BAUME MERCIER ROLEX
WATCHES NEVER OFFERED BY THE MILITARY
YET ARE HACKING VERSIONS LARGER THAN MILITARY
AND BEAUTIFUL AND SOLD AS MILITARY WATCHES

THEY HAVE HOLES IN THE LUGS
M
ADE IT EASY TO PUSHIN SPRING BARS AND TO USE WRE IF NEED BE
YOUR CARE GUIDE WILL INCLUDE INSTRUCTIONS

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SEE HOLES IN LUG?

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READY TO WEAR
RESTORED & OVERHAULED
PRE WW.   II
1935/1936

LONGINES
HACKING
WEEMS
PILOTS WATCH
27.27 MM
W/O CROWNS
WITH

1930 ROPE LEATHER STEEL BRACELET
FITS UP TO 7.5

TW LEATHER TOP END STRAPS
1960 REGULAR REMAKE OF MILITARY GREEN
LEATHER CONTRAST STITCHED STRAP

NEW TOP LINE LEATHER 1940’S TAN BROWN
CONTRAST STITCHED REGULAR STRAP

FREE USA
800 438 6894
TOLL FREE SUPPORT

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ADVERTISED IN ENGLAND AS MILITARY WATCHES & STRAPS

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WE REMAIN OPEN TO EXPERT AND STUDENT ALIKE
ANY INFO YOU HAVE WE ARE ALWAYS INTERESTED

NOTE THIS BEAUTY. THIS OFFERED WEEMS IS PICTURED ABOVE AFTER WE INVESTED ON EBAY FOR IT.

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ONE THE DIAL:

THERE ARE REASONS WHY THE DIAL ON THE ONE ABOVBE IS BLANK EXCEPT FOR LONGINES. 1929/30 WAS THE LAUNCH DATE. BY 1935 . DIALS HAD LONGINES WEEMS. THE PATENT IN 1935 MEANT 1936/37 MODELS WOULD HAVE   LONGINES WEEMS & THE FAMILIAR PATENT NUMBER.

WHEN,  IN WWII, THE US PLACED THE SPECS FOR THE A-11 AND OTHER MILWATCHES. IT WAS STATED THAT NO BRAND NAMES ON THE DIALS WOULD BE PERMITTED.  WEEMS, EVER THE SALES MAN, WOULD GET A CONTRACT –A SMALL ONE THAT DID LITTLE TO PROMOTE THE WATCH. THEY WERE INFORMED THAT DIALS HAD TO BE BLANK.  NOTE, VERY FEW US MIL WATCHES EVER HAD THE BRAND NAME ON THE DIAL, SOME DIVES IN VIETNAM PERIOD.

I HAVE A WWII LETTER ON LSYF.COM THAT INFORMS WALTHAM THAT NO ATTER WHAT, NO NAMES UNLESS IN THE CODE ON BACK.

SO. I WAS ASKED WHY I SAY MILITARY WEEMS WHEN IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT MARKED ON INSIDE BRIGDE -ANSWER BY WEEMS TO NO BRAND– WELL, AFTER INVESTING I WENT TO A FRIEND, HE HAS TWENTYON ME. 80 YEARS OLD. WE BOTH CONCLUDED THAT THE DIAL WAS KEY. IN 1935, 200 WEEMS ITH NO PATENT OR WEEMS ON DIAL, ONLY, LIKE THE LONGINES A-7, WHICH HAD LONGINES ON50% OF THE WATCHES, WE HAVE FOUND THE 2200 WEEMS HAD JUST LONGINES ONLY ON DIAL. THE 200 HAD JUST LONGINES, THEN, 2000 MORE WERE PURCHSED. 

SO, WHEN I OVERHAULED HER WE ALSO RESTORED THE DIAL WITH PLATES FROM 1937. IT REALY DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WHAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS THE OVER HAUL. 

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THE MOVEMENT


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NOTE WHEEL OFF CENTER

NOTE “10L” NOTE US ARMY ON
THE CENTER PINION BRIDGE
AND THE OFFSET WHEEL

10.68 HACKING 101/2 23.30MM.
10L W/TRUE CENTER SEC HACKING
H.5 30MM A-11  10 L BRIDGED CENTER SWEEPS
ALL WITH CENTER SWEEP OFFSET

 

 

A MOVEMENT WITH SWEEPS SECONDS–SECOND HAND REVOLVES AROUND THE DIAL– AND ABILITY TO HACK -STOP IT FROM RUNNING-   WAS REQUIRED. THE 10L 1068N WERE SIMILAR. BUT THE DATE ON THE 10L WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 1948?? THUS, AFTER RESTORING 60 TO 70 OF THESE WEEMS OF AL DATES, THE FIRST MOVEMENT WAS PURE HACKED. THE OFF SET WHEEL ACTUALLY RODE ON TOP OF ALL BRIDGES. NUMBERS LIKE 10.68 ARE MOREFOR MARKING THE SIZE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. THEY WERE ALL GREAT MOVMENTS

15 JEWEL LIKE MILITARY MOVEMENT WITH EXTRA
JEWEL FOR HACKED SWEEP SECONDS PINION
16 JEWELS


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CASE BACK HAS
AVIGATION
A-7 TIMER UTILIZED
FROM BUTTON CENTER CROWN

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ABOVE LONGINES A-7
FIRST WRISTWATCH FOR AVIGATION
NAVIGATION AVIATION
HALF HAD LONGINES ON DIAL

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REAR CASE US ARMY AC TYPE A-II
MOV 10.68

ABOVE IS ONE OF MY RESTORES. NOTE
LONGINES WEEMS PATENT NUMBER

 

 

FOR MORE ON AVIATION NAVIGATION A HISTORY
NOTE LOTS OF FACTS PHOTOS BUT THERE IS MORE TO ADD

HANDS

NOTE THE HANDS ARE ORIGINAL BUT NOT IN COLOR. THIS BEAUTY HAD GOLD HANDS. WE LEARNED THAT DUE TO THE SIZE OF DIAL PILOTS WOULD HAVE THEIR JEWELER/ WATCH MAKER COLOR THE HANDS WITH THREE COLORS. IT MADE VISUALS ON THE “FLY” –PUN INTENDED– FANTASTIC.IF YOU WANT VBLACK ODR GOLD LETME KNOW BEFORE YOU ONVEST.

[NOTE ROCK HAS THOUSANDS OF HANDS]
ROCK CHOSE A EARLY STYLE OF HANDS
MANY PILOTS WERE ABLE TO  MAKE A
QUICK GLANCE AT WATCH AND IT WAS EASY TO READ

THUS. ON THE DATE OF THE BIRTH OF THIS
LONGINES WEEMS, ONLY TWO GENRE INVESTED
IN THIS WATCH. PILOTS AND MILITARY.
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THE WEEMS SIMPLY WAS NOT AN A-11. YOU SEE,  THE A-I1 WAS SIMPLY A HACKING WATCH FOR PIOLTS, NAVIGATIORS, AND, ON ITS WAY TO THE A-17 , AND THEN THE 3118A, A  VIETNAM WAR PILOTS, GROUND FORCES, AND SPECIAL FORCES WATCH [BUILT UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES/STYLES]

VERSION 1 W/TWO CROWNS DIAL LONGINES OR LONGINES WEEMS 1929-1933

VERSION 2 W/TWO CROWNS  JUST LONGINES ON DIAL USED FOR MILITARY 1935/36

VERSION 3 LONGINES/WEEMS + PATENT ON DIAL END OF 1935 TO 1942

VERSION 4  ARMY AIRCORPS A-11 SPEC CONTRACT 1ST HAD MARKED DIAL LAST CLEAN 1942/43


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LINDBERG HOUR ANGLE ROCK RESTORE

 

 

THE WEEMS A-11 ARMY AIR CORPS DID NOT LIVE UP TO SPECS.  WITH IT’S LARGE BEZEL ITS DIAL WAS  SMALL WHEN COMPARED TO THE BEZEL AND DIAL IN THE A-11 BY COMPANIES LIKE BULOVA ELGIN WALTHAM , ETC. ALSO PRICE WAS REDUCED TREMENDOUSLY IN  THE   CHEAPER, STREAM LINED NON BEZEL A-II

VERSIONS 5 IS WHAT WE MAINLY SEE TODAY. THEY HAVE LONGINES,WEEMS AND PATENT ON DIAL. SOME THE 1930’S “CROWNS UP” AND THEN “CROWNS DOWN” AND EVEN  A LARGER CASE VERSION.

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FREE HTM ON BASIC HISTORY OF AVIATOR WATCHES
NO ADDS LINKS JUST ANOTHER ITEM TO LEARN FROM

THE WEEMS ON THE OTHER HAND REQUIRED A BOOK AND A TRAINING TO USE/ IT HACKED LIKE THE A-11, BUT THE US MILITARY HAD EXPERIENCE DATING BACK TO 1935 WITH   WEEMS HIMSELF. WEEMS  TOUTED HIS WATCH TO BE THE ANSWER TO A HUGE NAVIGATION PROBLEM IN THE US ARMY AIR CORP. HE REVEN CONTACED THE SEC OF WAR . WEEMS  HAD EVEN TRIED TO TRAIN  Amelia Earhart BEFORE HER LAST DEADLY FLIGHT.*

*COPIES OF LETTERS AT BOTTOM  NOTE THE DATES

THE WEEMS Second Setting Watch ALSO
REQUIRED A SEXTANT FOR CELESTIAL SIGHTINGS.

His “System” Then Employed A Modified Sextant Taking Two “Shots” Of The Sun, Allied To An Accurate Time Reading From His “Second Setting Watch”, Followed By Making Reference To The Tables In The Line Of Positions Book.(The Line Of Position Book Provided Extensive Charts With Precalculated Positions; Allowing A Pilot To Look Up The Positions Quickly And Easily, Instead Of Performing The Complicated Calculations Himself.)

NO ADS NO LINKS JUST SOME GREAT AVIATOR WATCH HISTORY. REMEMBER GSW ONLY OFFERS OUR WORKS ONLINE THROUGH EBAY.

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GRUEN ADVERTISED WATCHES SPECIFICALLY MADE
FOR 8 BRANCHES OF US MILITARY

YOUR STRAP OR BRACELET

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT ROCK HAS A RARE LEATHER STRAP THAT IS AS OLD AS THIS NEAR FIRST EDITION HACKING WEEMS. IT IS UNUSUAL, IN GREAT CONDITION, WAS UTILIZED BY A PILOT AND MADE OF METAL, LEATHER AND ROPE, IT WILL FIT UP TO SIZE 8 INCH WRIST 

ALSO YOU RECEIVE THE FOLLOWING

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WHEEMS

DOWN AT BOTTOM IS A RECORD OF WATCHES USED BY US MILITARY.INCLUDING THE WEEMS. REMEMBER 1943 WAS WHEN A-II WAS ON THE LINE. SOME WERE OUT 1943. THE WEEMS AC WAS 1942/3. SO THE ONE LISTED IS IN FACT LIKE THIS ONE.. THIS MODEL WAS UTILIZED BY MILITARY AND COMERCIAL PILOTS THROUGH OUT THE 1930’S,

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THE FIRST TRUE AFFORDABLE AVIATORS WATCH 

The First True Aviators Watch Designed By A Pilot Specifically For Pilots By An Industry Great That Laid The Ground Work For Both The Linburgh Hour Angle Watch And Glycine Airman Was The Longine Weems…. …

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In 1927 – The Year Lindbergh Crossed The Atlantic. Captain Philip Van Horn Weems (1889-1979) Designed The “Weems System Of Navigation” His “System” Employed A Modified Sextant Taking Two “Shots” Of The Sun, Allied To An Accurate Time Reading From His “Second Setting Watch”, Followed By Making Reference To The Tables In The Line Of Positions Book.


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A FEW OF ROCKS WEEMS RESTORATIONS

 

 

In 1929,Captain Philip Van Horn Weems DESIGNED A Second Setting Watch Watch That Used A Rotating Exterior Bezel Or Center Dial With Minutes/Seconds Chapter Ring To Synchronize The Watch To The Second Using The Radio Time Signal Without Adjusting The Hands AND Incorporated A Second “Locking” Crown That Allowed The User To Lock Down The Rotating Bezel At The Precise Timing On The Bezel.

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There there are several versions of the Weems.
The first did not have a  patent. the patent was added i believe in 1935.

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THERE WERE 200 FREE 1934/35 WEEMS THAT WERE PROVIDED FREELY WHEN THE ARMY AIRCORPS HAD A TERRIFIC PROBLEM WITH NAVIGATION. THESE 200 WERE SHIPPED TO TWO BASES. THEN. IN THE LATE PART OF 1935 EARLY 1936, 1800 MORE WERE PURCHASED FOR THE US ARMY AIR CORPS. THESE WERE NOT STAMPED, SIGNED OR GIVEN A MILITARY NUMBER. LIKE A-7  A-11  A-17  3118B

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IN FACT, THE COSTLY LARGE A-7 LONGINES AT THE TOP. THE VERY FIRST INTERACTIVE PILOTA WRIST WATCH WAS ENDED IN 1934. IT WAS REPLACED WITH WEEMS. NO NUMBER UNTIL 1940!!!! WHICH IT JOINED THE A-11 CLASS UNTIL LONGINES PRODUCED THE STRAIGHT LONGINES A-11. A HACKING LONGINES ON THE LARGE SIDE–COMPARED WITH ELGIN WATHAM BULOVA AND WEEMS

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THE ORIGINAL WEEMS PURCHSED ON EBAY IN FEBRUARY 2015
THE MOVEMENT WAS AS BAD AS THE CASE AND DIAL
2 WEEKS ON AND OFF TO RESTORE

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THE LETTER AT TOP IS THE FIRST WEEMS UTILIZED BY USAAC
IT ALL BEGAN WITH A FREE 1935 GIFT OF 200 WEEMS
FROM AVIATOR PHILIP VAN HORN WEEMS HIMSELF

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WE DO NOT KNOW IF WEEMS WENT TO WASHINGTON TO
INFORM THE USARMY AIR CORPS AS TO WHAT WAS
NEEDED TO IMPROVE NAVIGATION LOSES
NOTE THE 1935 DATE OF THE LETTER AT TOP

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THE AC AND A-11 VERSIONS WERE
NOT CONTRACTED UNTIL WELL AFTER
THE GIFT

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CHOOSE THE STRAP OR BRACELETYOU WANT MOUNTED
INSTRUCTIONS FOR CHANGING OUT STRAPS IS PART OF YOUR CAEW GIDE.

NOTE I REMOVED THE LEFT SIDE SPRING BAR
TO DEMONSTATE HOW WE CHANGE THEM

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NOTE THE ROTATING BEZEL LOCK AT 2
2 styles early 27.7 mm locking crown at 2 pos
later 30 mm locking crown at 4 pos

A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK WENT INTO THIS RESTORATION
ROCK PAID 140.00 PLUS SHIPPING SEVERAL WEEKS AGO ON EBAY ONE CROWN, THE ONE AT TOP THAT LOCKS BEZEL, WAS MISSING, IT HASD OTHER ISSUES.  PLUS PARTS STRAP DIAL WORK, BEZEL WORK -NOTE THE NUMERALS AND HASHES–

BUT THIS PARTICULAR MODEL IS ONE OF THE FIRST

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In 1929, in partnership with Longines, Weems registered a patent for his design [APPROVED 1935]. Longines produced the original 28mm “WEEMS” with locking crown at 2 position and added a 30mm larger model with locking crown at 4 position., [thus the Weems came in two sizes. one the same size as the decade later U.S. GOV MIL WWII A-11 PILOTS WATCH]

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AS YOU CAN SEE, ROCK PERFORMED SOME MAGIC
PARTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE
SO HE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL HUNDRED CROWNS
FOUND ONE THAT MATCHED THE ORIGINAL
MACHINED THE INTERIOR
AND TAP AND DIE A SCREW IN POST
THE ACTUAL THREADED HOLE IN CASE WAS NOT TOUCHED

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The Weems System Along With His Invention Of The Second Setting Watch Enabled Pilots And Navigators To Read Truly Accurate Time Directly From The Watch Face During An Era When Chronometrical Precision Was Costly And Rare. Especially With The Help Of A Radio Signal….

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Unless Your Watch Had A Hacking Seconds-Hand, Like The WWII A-11 Pilots Watch W/Hack [Introduced Ten Years AFTER THE WEEMS Later] along With Precise Timekeeping And You’HAVE Set Your Watch Correctly In The First Place, You Can Be Out By A Few Seconds At Any Given Time And A Few Seconds At High Air Speeds Over Great Distances Can Prove Dangerous, If Not Fatal.

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BEZEL WORKS PERFECT

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OK, THIS DIAL IS IN MINT AND PROPER CONDITION

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SLIDE HOLDER IS MOUNTED ON LOCK DOWN DOWN

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CASE DETAILED MOVEMENT DROPPED IN
SCREW DOWN HOLDER COMPLETE
DIAL SET SCREWED
A FINAL CASE WIPE DOWN WILL OCCUR


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THE MOVEMENT IN THIS AWESOME LONGINES HACKING
PILOT AND MILITARY NAVIGATION IS SIMPLY ONE OF THE MOST
AWESOME MOVEMENTS. AT 16 JEWELS S WITH BUILT IN SWEEP
SECONDS –STILL HACKED–  TIME PIECE  [10L]

 

 

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ABOVE IS THE 1930’S LEATHER STRAP. IT IS A MAN’S STRAP AND FITS UP TO AN 8 INCH WRIST. IT IS SIMPLE TO MOUNT A STANDARD STRAP, BUT A RARE PIECE LIKE THIS IS SIMPLY AWESOME. LIFTS VALUE AND WILL CREATE A BUZZ,

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ROCK WAS OUT OF SPRING BARS WHEN I TOOK PICS

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TELL ME THIS IS NOT A KILLER STRAP. LOTS OF FUN THINGS GOING ON.
AND TO BE 1930’S… ALONG WITH THE HACKING WEEMS FROM LONGINES,
IT IS A AWESOME CHOICE
YOU HAVE A CHOICE

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WAITING FOR SPRING BARS

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BOTH SIDES ARE SUPER

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THE ABOVE TIME PIECE FOR DEMONSTRATING THE LOOK OF WWII WATCH SPRING

ABOVE IS A SPRING BRACELET
IT DOES NOT GRAB AND IS SUPER COMFORTABLE

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ACTUAL WWII WATCH SPRING

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SIZE 8

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ACTUALLY 8.5

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SPRING BARS NEEDED


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WE DOUBLED AND THEN DOUBLED THE CHECKING OF THE SIZE

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ABOVE ARE US MILITARY WATCHES
THIS MODEL WAS UTILIZED BY THE US MILITARY
THEN IT BECAME ONE OF THE A-11 PILOTS WATCHES WWII

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SUBMITTING A WATCH TO THE US MILITARY
FOR TESTING AND/OR PROVIDING REPORTS
ARE REQUIRED AND THAT ALL SPECIFICATIONS
WERE MET

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CONDITION
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WATCH WINDS SETS & KEEPS TIME
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Welcome , today is Thursday, August 17, 2017